In part 1 of our newest series Ben Simmons vs The World – we will be using NBA 2K ratings, highlights from Twitter, & my opinion to see where Ben Simmons ranks among his piers. Enjoy.
This visual is an attempt to group NBA 2K Ratings to see who is the better overall player in all important categories.
Shooting: Obviously Brandon Ingram is head and shoulders above Ben Simmons in shooting. This category has one of the largest discrepancies & is a major reason why this argument is even valid. If you were to make a case for Ingram over Simmons, shooting would be the category you base your entire argument around.
Ingram could legit become one of the best shooting forwards in the league, while Simmons ceiling is much lower. If Simmons can become at least a threat from 3 – Sixers fans will take that with arms wide open.
Ben Simmons appears to be working on his three before Game 1 against the Raptors. pic.twitter.com/02WfOfd3Bn
— Hoop Central (@TheHoopCentral) April 27, 2019
Brandon Ingram 21 PTS, 7 REBS, 6 ASTS & the game-winning three vs the 76ers. The shot ended the Lakers 5 game losing streak. pic.twitter.com/cOYHqk7kx3
— Ballislife.com (@Ballislife) December 8, 2017
Inside Scoring: Simmons is so strong and savvy for a player his age – this shows with an advantage of 660 to 580 for inside scoring – that he is already a force in the paint. The problem for the 76ers is the roster & style of play does not allow Simmons to flourish fully in the paint. Horford & especially Embiid clog up the lane & make it very difficult for Simmons to operate the way he would like. He feels much more comfortable penetrating and setting the offense from the elbow in, rather than the three point line but it is very difficult for him to get comfortable with the way the Sixers roster is currently constructed.
Ingram could become a great inside scorer, if he continues to add more weight and muscle. His body has transformed over the last couple years – so there’s no reason to expect this won’t continue in the upcoming years. I expect Ingram to focus on this part of his game and become a better inside scorer to go along with his stellar outside shot – making him one of the most well rounded offensive players in the NBA.
Dunk No.7 for Ben Simmons on League Pass! pic.twitter.com/qcqexa8Cl5
— NBA (@NBA) November 14, 2017
Brandon Ingram with the politest poster dunk of the season on the newly-acquired Taj Gibson pic.twitter.com/6jQMgj6iDj
— Rob Perez (@WorldWideWob) February 25, 2017
Defense: This is where the argument for Simmons is made – he is head and shoulders above Ingram. Simmons is legit one of the best defenders in the league & he hasn’t even come close to his ceiling (in my opinion). Simmons could go down as one of the greatest perimeter defenders of all time if he continues to progress the way he has.
Ingram needs to improve his defense – this is not a secret. Right now Ingram does not possess the ability to lock down the number one threat on the other team. I don’t think his ceiling is anywhere near Simmons & that’s okay. He just needs to become a great team / help defender to really impact the game defensively.
I'm writing about Ben Simmons' defense at the moment and came across this again.
He helps on Ibaka's roll to encourage a pass, prevents a shot or drive from Kawhi, then breaks up a second dive from Ibaka with a steal. Perfect defense. pic.twitter.com/5Z4ewEqrBl
— Tom West (@TomWestNBA) January 25, 2019
Brandon Ingram denied the inbounds pass 3 straight times before getting the steal. Look at how hype the team was😂 pic.twitter.com/g0avgULFZq
— Sports ON Tap Hoops (@SONTHoops) October 5, 2018
Rebounding: Very close category. This one feels like a push to me because both are plus rebounders for their position.
Ben Simmons' offensive rebound and touch pass to set up Embiid was so good pic.twitter.com/1FN1niBlFa
— Tom West (@TomWestNBA) December 15, 2018
Three young Lakers showing some of their best talents in one possession.
• Brandon Ingram uses his length for a tough rebound.
• Lonzo Ball fires the outlet pass.
• Julius Randle bowling-balls his way in for a bucket. pic.twitter.com/HEHtiLlc9e
— Joey Ramirez (@JoeyARamirez) March 2, 2018
Passing: Ben Simmons leads this category by 45 points – which should be a crime. Ben Simmons is by far the superior passer to Ingram and it’s not even close. His skill set makes him a better passer, but his vision and willingness catapults him ahead of Ingram.
When watching Ingram, it seems like he forgets he’s playing with 4 other guys a lot of the time. Simmons is always aware of his teammates (this may be because he’s terrified to shoot) every time down the floor. Simmons has great vision and could be the floor general of a historically great offense if given the opportunity with the right group of guys.
This Ben Simmons pass is Magic-like 👀 pic.twitter.com/NKvv8Mvr0Z
— SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) March 24, 2018
Brandon Ingram no-look pass to Thomas Bryant for the dunk pic.twitter.com/hurnGcnZSp
— Ballislife.com (@Ballislife) July 8, 2017
Intangibles: Another close category (Simmons advantage 471 to 419). Hard to argue either player is better than the other – both bring unbelievable things to the hard-wood. This is officially a push.
This pass by Ben Simmons 😳 pic.twitter.com/djKX0yE6XF
— Bleacher Report (@BleacherReport) October 29, 2017
Brandon Ingram was out there making plays in transition.
Uses that 7'3" wingspan to tap the rebound to himself and immediately fires the outlet assist. pic.twitter.com/UX9owTPZWm
— Joey Ramirez (@JoeyARamirez) January 27, 2018
Athleticism: Simmons is the better athlete (950 to 812), but Ingram is no slouch either. Both use their height and size so well that you forget both guys are 6 ft 7 inches+. Both are freaks of nature, but I agree wit 2K that Simmons has the slight advantage in this category.
Three players aren't enough to stop Ben Simmons 👀 pic.twitter.com/ZnGfGVZOEo
— SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) April 20, 2018
Just hand this guy the MIP 😤
Brandon Ingram with the athletic up and under 💧 pic.twitter.com/O15CdhF2K9
— ClutchPoints NBA (@ClutchPointsNBA) February 5, 2020
Conclusion: If we were starting a franchise I would lean Ingram over Simmons simply because his ability to be a walking bucket cannot be matched with anything Simmons brings to the table. That is not a knock on Simmons because if we look at the overall game of basketball – you could argue Simmons is superior in most facets of the game.
If we were building a specific team & had shooters in place – Simmons is the easy answer. Simmons in the right system will unlock potential in Simmons that we did not think was possible. I think Simmons is more versatile & can fit into a team in more ways than Ingram. This is due to his ability to pass & play defense at an elite level.
Both players are unbelievable & still rising, but I lean Ingram slightly over Simmons.